. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I then made a mark on the rod at the point where it entered the muzzle. It can also be caused by firing too many rounds without cleaning the gun, which builds up residue and causes friction. I was (am) fond of accuracy. A way to make hunting ammo from military rounds. From what I had heard this technique worked and many German snipers got plastered with metal shards in their faces. Had to pound on the bolt handle with a hammer and block of wood to get the bolt open. For large calibers, severely lodged bullets or stuck cases, additional drops may be required. Can I use all of your guns for future backwards bullet testing? ken is right here, release the bolt hold open lever, to let it go all the way forward. Amp up your AK with these exciting accessories. Be sure to check out our gun classifieds where you can buy, sell or trade your gear. Joseph Von Benedikt shows his custom 500 and how well it shoots. What Id be interested in is how it effected the BC of the bullet. The Mossberg 500 Pump Action Shotgun is one of the most popular home defense shotguns on the market. My handloads pass case gauge 100% but some would get stuck in chamber. It should seep through. Only when we get to 5:25 does Mr. Ammo Channel point out that its a really, really stupid idea; split casings and all. All Shooting Times subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. You must log in or register to reply here. We show you how. Is this a normal thing to have happened with a brand new gun? An abrupt rear surface also causes turbulence. Use a dowel just smaller than the bore, you wont hit the primer. When the government fears the people, there is liberty. If I must use a steel rod, I make sure the contact end of it is perfectly flat and smooth and the edges are slightly rounded. There are better ways of doing this. If the case was stuck it should have been hard to open. The video says that he read a crazy idea on the internet and tried to test it. Wasnt the 50 Alaskan originally a cut down 50BMG bullet stuck into a case backwards? Once the case it out, reverse the barrel in the vise jaws so that its muzzle is up. I did however buy a cleaning kit, and was planning on cleaning the rifle after 250 shots or so (as per the manuel). A squib is a round that does not have enough powder charge to send the bullet down the chamber and out the barrel. I don't think the round will be all that stuck once you actually tap on it. Anodized matte black for durability. Suggested fix is weak hand on the slide and palm-strike the back of the lower/grip, hard, to try and eject the round. Who knew wild turkey's were so stupid!? I have used them myself in a 38 special. The ideal bullet shape, from an aerodynamics perspective, is something like a football. Bullet Lodged in Barrel Backwards Thread starterdefygravity Start dateFeb 8, 2013 The #1 community for Gun Owners of the Northeast Member Benefits: No ad networks! Therefore, the bullet gets stuck in the barrel. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Good thing, since I can't get enough of the spring rod visible to get a wrench on anyway. The second round was able to chamber, but as it did, it pushed the expended brass down the barrel. A word of caution is definitely in order here. You probably have a point when it comes to supersonic velocities though. A 2LT loaded the magazine with the round in backwards and released the slide jamming the round in the mouth of the barrels chamber. The problems arise when improper technique is used to remove the bullet. Once the first round went through the gel block how can you ever know if the the damage caused by the first round did not impact the damage caused by the second round???? yes, if you turn the bullet around so that the pointed end is in the case, the internal ballistic pressure does cause a pressure gradient greater where the case is crimped. I've hit the bolt release lever and its slammed forward, and I've pulled the action back and it doesn't come out. DO NOT remove from your chamber using pliers or anything besides the eraser end of a pencil or a cleaning rod, using anything else voids the warranty as it may damage the tool. Yeah, the ones I have are "Stingers" Look like nice bullets though, Also off topic, but the *******s at the shop sold me 4 different brands of ammo, one of them being super velocity (the type it says not to use in the instruction manual). With the bullet removed, I cleaned the bore and checked for damage where the bullet had been stuck. Learn the difference between revolvers and semi-auto pistols and what makes them different. The first attempt to remedy any stoppage of an AR-15 should be what those in the know call Immediate Action: "Tap, Rack, and Reassess.". with enough force, the slide should move the eject the stuck round. are you able to see the round from the top of the slide (ejection port)? It must have happened in the gun. I have seen more damage done to barrels from attempts to clear the obstruction than caused by the stuck bullet itself. The more turbulence, the more drag on a bullet. There is a bullet in the chamber and the slide will not slide back. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Although I was doing it where if it did go off, noone would get hurt, the fact is I still don't want a bullet flying through my house. I had my wife move the lever because once it's out of the way you can open the slide and lock it in place (impossible without extra hands). xd45 service black*xd40 service bi-tone*Walther p22 Walther model 9-25acp*Savage 22lr*savage 93r17-17hmr*savage stevens 308win*savage 110 7mm rem mag*Beretta 1934-380acp*Manns patent(? A little inspection can go a long way. Mar 16, 2008. dsr30 said: I went to the range today and left with a round stuck in the chamber of the XD. FYI, that is not a stovepipe. I wouldn't push anything against the primer though. Both rounds that stuck were reloads. Leading increases the more powder you burn because more lead burns. If that fails, a local gunsmith can probably free it for about $40. The round is in the chamber but the slide won't move forward or backward. | The ball/bullet MUST be pushed back against whatever powder charge you get in the chamber! My friend had tried unsuccessfully to drive the bullet out with a cleaning rod from the muzzle. I'm able to move the silde about 10mm and that's it. With the mag out, can you rack the slide with your rear sight on a table with muzzle pointed safely down? You would need a bullet puller, and a bullet seating die, and some kind of a press, unless your just going to pound the bullet back in the case. It may not display this or other websites correctly. If they are different or over the SAAMI c.o.a.l. 26. Sounds like an out of spec round or maybe a 9x18 instead of the 9x19 round. 25 votes, 51 comments. I also seldom use a steel rod to drive out a bullet to avoid any possibility of a spark or damage to the bore. It won't extract by normal means. Causes a full lock up and the slide gets jammed back with no wiggle room at all. "The fear of death follows from the fear of life. If you want extremely deep penetration and devastating terminal performance on dangerous game, then use hardcast lead bullets with large, flat meplats. Absolutely impossible. I myself would never put a round into the chamber at home, incase anything like this happened. Move rod to contact bullet tip. I had one that jamed but it still fired.It sounded really weak when it fired and i could not move the slide.Since i knew it had fired i taped the slide on the desk and it freed it but the bullet remained in the barrel.I shined a light in the barrel and could see the bullet cocked to the left.I disasembled the gun then put the barrel in a vise and beat the bullet out.When i got it out it looked like the third bullet from the left.Luckily everything on the gun still looked good.Never had any trouble since then.It was the same ammo you have there.Winchester white box from Walmart.There was no damage to the box.After seeing your photo i will start paying more attention to all ammo when i load the magazine. If the firing pin is slightly exposed or the primer is sitting high (and since the slide is locked up you can't tell) you could discharge the round and cause a great deal of damage to the firearm, nearby property, yourself and others. At 30 seconds in he expresses concern with the pressure. Vex. Fortunately, there's a simple and easy way to remove a stuck bullet when it happens. It worked!! OP, although Indy is probably right, I'd let him do it for me. and upwards to protect the naked base, these metal-based soft lead bullets are splendid. This is the sequence that happens as you fire your gun. In the mean time, it really doesnt make that much difference. Lead bullets cant be pushed as fast as jacketed rounds. One old trick with the .38 Special was to use a 148-gr. A value-priced red dot with a full set of features. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program, removing a stuck bullet from the bore of a firearm, How To Accurize Your Rifle | An Official Journal Of The NRA, Classic SSUSA: Boomers At Bisley 2003 | An NRA Shooting Sports Journal, How Clean Should Your Guns Be? I would have someone else load your mags from now on. The first task was to determine the location of the stuck bullet as that could affect how I would approach removing it. what i usually do is remove the magazine, grasp the slide with your left hand (if you're right handed) pointing the gun at a safe direction. The wrench/hammer is for when your spring rod gets set off-center. I dont know, duck tape and string are just as safe and a lot cheaper. Its bad ju-ju. Ive always heard that the most aerodynamic shape is a raindrop and the backwards FMJ looks like the mother of all boat-tails, so would it be more or less aerodynamic? The casing was getting stuck in the chamber and I was a able to pry one out with a screw driver and try again but it happened again and I gave up and went home and get it out with a cleaning rod through the barrel. You not only endanger your own life, but those near you, What would be the point of this even if it was safe.. bullet stuck in chamber backwards. The round cleared the barrel thank goodness! As a mater of fact about the worst you could come up with. The other observation is that by WWI the British were using aluminum or cellulose tips in their full metal jacket .303 (Hague compliant) ammo to lighten the front of the bullet and increase the tumbling effect (thereby negating the whole purpose of the Hague Convention rule the Japanese picked up this trick in the next great war). I know this thread is old, but thought what just happened to me might be useful to others. Be careful. Same problem happened to another person just recently here on xdtalk. Use a nylon or wooden dowel, tap it out with a hammer. I have never had this happen to me even though for many years I carried my BDL REM 22-250 in the field . I also read about someone loading backwards rifle round to produce subsonic loads. I had been told many years ago that the backwards bullet trick was used during the depression or by rural poor people to hunt for game with cheaper surplus ammo. It goes to considerable lengths to test the theory that backwards bullets are more lethal than frontward facing pills. to be honest with you, the hyper velocity stuff usually doesnt group too well in a host of guns. Any serious suggestions appreciated. The rod is then removed, laid along the barrel with the locating mark even with the muzzle, and a mark is made on the outside of the barrel at the end of the rod. We had a line full of people and I was behind the instructor. This mark corresponds to the front end of the stuck bullet. 3- Check/remove any roughness on the bolt. My first instinct would be to try to yank the bullet with needle nose pliers. Used the antenna from my 2010 tundra to tap it out. This works well, if not gently with the barrel pointed in a safe direction. Answer (1 of 4): First critical question here is: Why can you not move the slide on your 9mm? Something else is up. Never mentioned semi auto. At the minimum spent brass needs to be neck sized to enable re-chambering, the cartridge case has expanded after firing so closes down the chamber tolerances that is why it feels hard to close the bolt and if the chamber is dirty you are only going to jam the case in there. The bullet is being pushed into the barrel hard enough to get stuck in the throat or beginning of the rifling. Mark the location. Yes, you can probably clear a simple jam and continue shooting your handgun, but in the long run, if there are either mechanical issues or underlying problems with the gun, you might be putting yourself or others at risk by doing so. I saw a guy loading 380 into my SR9 magazine during a local shoot. A Delrin rod, some lubrication and the proper application of a mallet will help remove a bullet stuck in your barrel. So much so that the weapon was taken to a gunsmith to remove the stuck round. It will slow down much faster travelling through air. Whats the difference between this and a wadcutter? He required a new barrel. why not just cut off a portion of the tip instead of flipping the bullet around? If you take a small screwdriver you can gently move the metal with the hook away from the shell. What's the Perfect Trigger Pull Weight for a Hunting Rifle? HBWC with the hollow base turned forward. I've tried force, finesse, a rod and nothing seems to work. 2023 Outdoor Sportsman Group. This was done with reload components, not pulled bullets. If I load with Xtreme RN bullets everything is fine no mater what. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I wish D.S. I thought it tumbled after it left the barrel. The Flat Nose bullets used in .45-70, .38-55, and a lot of other late 19th Century cartridges are essentially SWCs. I did have issues with WWB (and some other) ammo feeding in my new P238 until I had run several hundred rounds. I did the same with .357. It's a live round and it's stuck in a way that I can't even rack the slide. With a flashlight look into where the magazine goes. That way it cannot touch the primer. Even if you think I am reading to far into the videos intent, take it on face value. No matter what type of rod you use, make sure it is solid. 300 Blackout Fine-Tuning: Finding the Right Barrel Length for Your Rifle. The destruction of European Civilization - by its own leaders - is one of the most extraordinary acts in all of Human History. -Hungarian Prime Minister, May 2018, "It's such a shame, all the death in the rapper community. It is important that you are aware of what happens after you pull the trigger. The Govt sold off obsolete or broken cracked stocks, missing or bent sight blades surplus rifles cheap. Radial vs. Directional Muzzle Brakes: Which Is Best? Pull the slide cover offremove firing pinthat will ensure when you pound it back, it will not detonate, Use a nylon or wooden dowel, tap it out with a hammer. Not much of a crimp. experiment) to a hand loader, is much like asking a drag racer why he is constantly fiddling with his traction bars- because its fun! When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Had not fired at all, came back from hiking, attempted to eject to switch back to 2-legged ammo, and discovered the problem. A forum community dedicated to Glock firearm owners and enthusiasts. Mikey Hartman, Lt. Col. Although a rare occurrence,. I was explaining the appeal of backwards facing bullets in terms of their terminal ballistics. (guide rod/handle) Save Reply Quote R RCP Phx Registered Joined Oct 2, 2011 Revolver: This type of handgun doesn't throw away the empty shells when the bullet is fired. 8. I called BarSto today and their gunsmith said it is an known issue. I just hope we don't run out of rappers.". And I explained the advantage of a backwards facing bullet with what is essentially the same thing: semi or full wadcutters. Not the best idea and as a reloader I dont like to do anything that could blow up my fine accurate rifles. JavaScript is disabled. Better than shooting FMJ or those old round nose lead loads. The procedure is duplicated from the chamber end of the barrel, revealing where the stuck bullet is located and how long it is.